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In conversation: Andrew Pierre Hart, Charmaine Watkiss, Nduduzo Makhathini & Katherine Finerty
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Andrew Pierre Hart is a London-based artist whose practice is inter-disciplinary focussed on painting. His work explores the symbiotic relationship between sound and painting His practice is an ongoing rhythmic research and play of improvised and spontaneous generative processes, through various mediums including sound, video, performance, found object and image, language, and installation. Andrews’s current work explores themes of spatiality, visualisation, synchronisation, and re-interpretations of DJ technology.
Hart is an ArtAngel ‘Thinking Time ‘Awardee 2020, A 2019 Tiffany and Co Outset studio prize winner. He performed alongside Larry Amponsah at ‘Collective Intimacy’ at 180 The Strand in 2019. He is currently exhibiting at Tiwani Contemporary in a two-person show with Charmaine Watkiss in The Abstract Truth of Things – The lockdown in the UK made for an opportunity for the artists to meet and engage on social media platforms where they conducted a series of discussions to develop the meeting point of their collaboration: the colour blue and the sound of Jazz - markers of innovation and invention in American, African and Caribbean diaspora histories.

Charmaine Watkiss is a London based artist who comes from a background in film and design. Her current practice is focussed around drawing, creating life sized figures which allows her to work in a layered and non linear way. She has recently started to explore African ancestral traditions which have survived the transatlantic; stories, rituals and customs which have become a part of Caribbean culture and have now adapted again as the diaspora move beyond the Americas into the western world. She creates memory stories which shift between the archeological, the cosmological and the historical spaces – always looking back in order to create a new projection in the present.
Charmaine completed an MA in Drawing at Wimbledon College of Art in 2018. She was shortlisted for the Trinity Buoy Wharf Drawing Prize, 2019. This year she was a shortlisted Awardee of the 198 Gallery Women of Colour Award and is currently in a two-person show with Andrew Pierre Hart at Tiwani Contemporary Gallery.

Nduduzo Makhathini is an award-winning pianist, improvisor and scholar from South Africa. He’s a recipient of the Standard Bank Young Artist Award, South African Music Award (SAMA) and AFRIMA, and has nine albums including his most recent Modes of Communication: Letters from the Underworlds on Blue Note Records. Makhathini heads University of Fort Hare’s music department while completing his PhD at Stellenbosch University. His performs as both headline and sideman at international festivals and club concerts. Makhathini recently collaborated with Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra and Wynton Marsalis touring the US, South Africa and Vienna. He also has collaborated with alternative artists like DJs Black Coffee and Dacapo, and produced albums for singer-songwriters Msaki and Thandiswa Mazwai.
Makhathini was scheduled for a huge US and EU tour to promote his new album, but due to COVID-19 was unable to travel. Ironically, he’s now trending on social media performing from home as part of online international festivals such as Worldwide Music for Our Cultures, Act for Music and NPR Music. He recently received a Jazz Coalition Commission.

Katherine Finerty is currently Assistant Curator and Communications & Development Manager at The Showroom, London. She is also an independent curator and writer focusing on research-based and socially-engaged practices, translocal identity politics, and contemporary arts of the African diaspora. Finerty works collaboratively to develop alternative cultural discourses and multi-disciplinary art experiences that encourage progressive exchanges and participation. Her curatorial practice embraces sound as a powerful tool for storytelling and brings together artists, musicians, poets, DJs, and more to create collective interdisciplinary platforms.
In 2019 Finerty co-curated Collective Intimacy (180 The Strand and The Showroom, London) and The Showroom Mural Commission - Simnikiwe Buhlungu: Notes to Self (Intimate 1) (The Showroom) with Elvira Dyangani Ose. She has a Masters in Curating Contemporary Art from the Royal College of Art, London; a BA in History of Art and Africana Studies from Cornell University, New York; and has studied History of Art at Pembroke College, University of Cambridge.
Photo: Charlotte Speechley








Artists Andrew Pierre Hart and Charmaine Watkiss with Pianist Composer Nduduzo Makhathini in conversation with IN·FLO·RES·CENCE co-curator Katherine Finerty, about collaborative and transcendent aspects of sound in collective memories, curatorial practices, and art-making during the pandemic.
This discussion includes an introduction by curator Katherine Finerty to IN·FLO·RES·CENCE’s focus on the cross-modality of art and sound and the three speakers including one of the project’s commissioned composers Nduduzo Makhathini who’s a pianist, scholar, and healer from South Africa, as well artists Andrew Pierre Hart whose inter-disciplinary practice functions as a rhythmic research of the symbiotic relationship between sound and painting, and Charmaine Watkiss whose practice is grounded in drawing and research is connected to the African Caribbean diaspora and transatlantic ancestral traditions.
The jumping off point for this dynamic 80 minutes conversation was the discovery that Andrew and Charmaine were listening to Nduduzo’s latest album whilst they were working on their two-person exhibition at Tiwani Contemporary in London called The Abstract Truth of Things, curated by Adelaide Bannerman and on view until this Saturday September 12th. For this exhibition Andrew compiled 37 songs that were shared between himself, Charmaine, and Adelaide during lockdown, resulting in a vibrant and transcendent playlist for the show which functions both as a representation of their curatorial process as well as an immersive soundscape for those in the gallery.
This intimate conversation delves into each of the artist’s creative practices, and their personal connection to sound in the framework of jazz, collective memory, and cosmology.
It starts with Charmaine’s reflection upon listening to Nduduzo’s song Indawu whilst preparing for her current exhibition with Andrew; leads into Nduduzo’s elaboration upon his new album Modes of Communication: Letters from the Underworlds which was released at the start of lockdown; and continues with Andrew’s interrogation of sonics in grounding his practice as a painting. Furthermore, an unexpected WiFi-blip magically redirected the conversation into a proposal for ritual technology, challenging the Western imposition of linear thinking and creating, in lieu advocating for ancestral knowledge of transcendent tools of cosmological communication.

The Abstract Truth of Things exhibition gains its name from a 1997 show called The Blues and the Abstract Truth featuring American artist David Hammons, which was inspired by the 1961 album by jazz saxophonist Oliver Nelson. This collaboration with curator Adelaide was thus grounded in a greater cultural context, framing the major themes of the power of Jazz and the colour blue. Nduduzo’s own jazz practice further nuances this curatorial exploration of Jazz as a tool for the innovation and muli-layered storytelling of American, African, and Caribbean diaspora histories. Through all of these artists practices we can find deep, interwoven transatlantic inspirations, from African influences (like the underwater spirits of the Nguni people as referenced in Nduduzo’s song Indawu; the deep blue Yoruba indigo in Charmaine’s drawing; and circular portals suggesting Afrofuturist teleportation in Andrew’s paintings) to American-accented post-bop and the inventive multiple-movements of John Coltrane’s A Love Supreme.
By transcending time and borders, this conversation dives deep into the idea of music as a form of telling stories, activating collective memory, and conjuring the contexts of history, archaeology, and cosmology in order to reach new global audiences throughout both physical and digital soundscapes.
This conversation encapsulates what the IN·FLO·RES·CENCE platform is rooted in: exploring the cross-pollination of art and sound in order to create connections and constellations – inflorescences across borders and communities. The interconnectivity of these three artists’ practices and how they each drawn upon music throughout their daily lives and creative disciplines – enduringly, but especially during the unique conditions of our time – is an example ngoma: the Zulu aesthetic concept based on multiplicity, mutli-mediums, and multi-voices.

Previous Works by Andrew Pierre Hart:
Andrew’s interdisciplinary practice focuses on the symbiotic relationship between sound and painting through the mediums of painting, music, video, performance, found object, image, language, photography, and installation. Repeating themes in his works include: Blue, The Circle, Funk, Movement, Rhythm (rather than time), and collective memor.
My practice an ongoing rhythmic research and play of improvised and spontaneous generative processes… By proposing Painting and Sound, through the notion of cross-modality , reconstructing languages, and idea generation, my practice responds ad infinitum: an improvisation of improvisation . All of this is translated through the action of play and experimentation ; a new wave expanded painting. - Andrew Pierre Hart
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